:



HVORFOR?- psykologisk set.
"People just want to be loved and understood.
If they are not loved, they want to be respected.
If they are not respected, they want to be feared.
And if they are not feared, they want to be despiced.

People will do anything to get love and attentions.
If I can, I wants to be loved, respected - yeah, be somebody good.
Or - if I can´t be the best of me - at least I can be the worst. The point is:
"I AM SOMEBODY, I WAS HERE, AND YOU WILL REMEMBER ME!"
This is the sad story behind the so called "evil" - beside Ignorance and Stupidity.
as well as the story behind our heroes." - a wise old sage once said.

/english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2009/
og se hvad der virkelig sker i mellemøsten her:
http://english.aljazeera.net/


Menneskeforagt i Irak
Se de forargelige fascistiske foto ´s her.
www.antiwar.com/news/?articleid=2444

Ifølge Donald Rumfeldt er der mange flere fotoes og videoer,
der er endnu værre. Læs en god kommentar her
-----------------

Rumfeldt ved et møde:
"Lad os for helvede ikke lede mere
efter de der Masseødelæggelsesvåben.
Lad os nu lede efter den fucking olie, vi kom her for."
---------------

"President Bush spoke to the United Nation last week
and many of its members accused him of unilateralism.
President Bush was angry when he heard this
and even angrier when he found out
what this word meant."

Klik her og se/hør Busch tale, der rystede verden:
homepage.mac.com/art.v/iMovieTheater18.html
Klik øverst på "Bush on Al Qaeda.


"More and more details are coming out about Saddam Hussein
and his decadent lifestyle. Apparently everyone of his palaces
contained a huge collection of pornography, or as he calls it,
"Weapons of Mas-turbation." -Jay Leno
----------

Kedelig nyhed til Martyrer:
Ifølge skriftkloge Imaner er der sket en fejl
i oversættelsen af koranens løfte til Martyrer.
Det er ikke 72 jomfruer, der venter på martyren
i paradiset - men 72 rosiner! Fejlen er sket
i en af de tidlige oversættelser af koranen.


ATS (At Tænke Sig)
i Politiken bringer dette LYNINTERVIEW med
"Hr. udenrigsmagister Per Stiv Øller, De sagde jo før Irakkrigen,
at Saddam Hussein helt sikkert havde masse-ødelæggelsesvåben
»Nej, det er ikke korrekt. Det, jeg sagde, var, at Saddams formodede
masse-ødelæggelsesvåben helt sikkert var noget, som han godt kunne
finde på at true med, for på den måde at destabilisere hele verden, og hvis
vi ikke greb ind, så kunne denne trussel godt blive meget ubehagelig
at leve med - og det kunne vi jo ikke have!«.

Tak skal De have, nu forstår vi det hele meget bedre!
»Gør De virkelig? Vil De så ikke nok forklare mig det?«.
Set i politiken.dk/nsf/henvis.asp?


Nedenstående er fra før Irakkrigen,
dvs. fra 1. april, 2003

Åh suk - nu tabte FN igen til USA,
og så slippes krigen atter løs - for alvor?
+ se denne helt vilde
musikvideo

"De sagde, at alt nu blev anderledes efter den 11. september.
Det lød da godt - men så bombede de jo bare løs i Afganistan - og
jeg tænkte, "Næh, nu er alt igen, ganske som før". Niels Hausgård.


+ Se den mere alvorlige del nederst på siden.
og min Krigs-webside nr. 2, - om denne dybt tragiske krig.
-
Der heldigvis blev overstået hurtigere, end jeg troede muligt.
Problemet nu er så, om det er muligt at vinde freden?
samt om endelig Israel /Pælastina-krigen bliver klaret
Hvis dette sidste lykkes, var det måske krigen værd,
hvis ikke - var den spild af 100 milliarder dollar!


"
Irakkrigen vil koste mindst 100 milliarder dollars i år
og besættelsen vil vare i mindst 20 år = en generation, førend
der kan tales om at demokratiet er blevet indført." ( hørt i CNN)
I de næste 11 år forventer USA at bruge 726 milliarder dollar
(ca fem billioner kroner (5.000.000.000.000 kroner !!!) .
på de rædsler, som de kalder "krigen imod terror".

Hvor kunne verden dog en dag
blive et smukt sted - for alle de penge!


Imens vi venter på,
hvad der mon sker nu, og nu: og nu
så se her en sjovere synsvinkel på Irakkrigen:

Klik på billederne, hvis du vil se dem større.

Dette håbefulde foto, som du ser her, er en forsamling af nøgne kvinder,
+ se foto 2 - der sender sådanne "No war" -hilsener via emails
til de amerikanske og engelske soldater i Golfen.
+ klik og se flere "No War" fotoes her.
+ 4 og mange flere her.


Send FN en hilsen fra dig via
WWW = Win Without War
"All we are saying, is give peace a chance."

Jokes om Tyrannen Saddam Hussein


"The first truth is that liberty is not safe
if the people tolerate the growth of private power to the point
where it becomes stronger than that of their democratic state itself.
That, in its essence, is Fascism." - Franklin Delano Roosevelt.


FAKTA:
Eet - 1 krydsermissil,
koster per skud ca. 600. 000 dollar.
Der er nu blevet afskudt over 6. 000 af disse.
Hvor mange skoler, kunne der mon bygges for det?


Vanviddets omfang:
Præsidenten for Verdensbanken James Wolfensohn
har regnet sig frem til, at verden nu i dag, bruger
ca.
5.600 milliarder kroner om året
på militært isenkram og soldater

Til kampen imod fattigdom
afsætter verden kun
370 milliarder kroner!
"I mine øjne er denne forskel et sandt udtryk for
hvor ufornuftig, ja vanvittigt verden opfører sig."
sagde Wolfensohn ved et topmøde.

set i TekstTV, 25 - 4-2004.

Jokes - fra dengang,
før Bush startede Irak-krigen:

"Mr. Præsident,
Hvorfor ikke bare købe Irak?
Du kan få Bagdad til en billigere pris
end de 700 milliarder kroner, som du nu
vil spenderer på at skabe mere had, elendighed
og ulykkelighed her, som i resten af verden.

Kan du forestille dig, hvor mange skoler,
spændende projekter og hospitaler du kan lave
i stedet for de - nu over 700 milliarder kroner
du vil bruge på at ødelægge og skabe frygt?
Jeg undrer mig over, at du ikke kan se
at pengene kan bruges meget bedre?

Angående Saddam,
(
som du og USA jo var ven med og støttede
dengang, da vi var i krig med Iran - og kurderne):
Smid blot en masse plakater ned over Bagdad
hvorpå du lover at betale 50 millioner dollars
for Saddams hoved. Læn dig så tilbage
og se ægte irakisk headhunting live
på fjernsynet. Det er sjovere
end at se på endnu en krig.

Gør det samme med Osama
- og brug så resten af milliarderne på
noget, som vækker glæde, fremfor mere had.
Det vil få verden til at elske dig meget højere,
end din far nogensinde vil kunne.

et stilfærdigt - og tåbeligt håb
fra Alladin, en lille dreng på 11 år,
der bor i Bagdad. Sendt 1. januar,
fra Bagdad, Irak. år 2003





Why not just buy Irak?
You can get it much cheeper,
than spending 100 billion dollars
on a war, that just will create more hate,
misery and suffering here, and in the world.

Just imagine how much education, growth
and helse, we all can get for 100 billion dollars.
Then try to imagine how much suffering
you now get for 100 billion dollars.
I wonder if you can ?

About your problem with Saddam?
Drop posters over Bagdad offering 50 million dollars
for Saddams head. Then just lay back and watch
the race - live from CNN, or Bagdadtelevision.

Then do the same with Osama, and spend
the rest of the money on better things.
That will make the world love you
more, than your father can do.

a silly hope from Alladin,
a little boy in Bagdad, Irak.


Her er et svar fra
11 millioner verdensborgere
til Alladin - og de andre uskyldige,
som forhåbentlig snart får nødhjælp..



En krig afgører ikke, hvem der har ret.
En krig afgører kun, hvem der overlever,
hvem der har flest våben - og hvem der dør.

Krige ender med kaos - og en masse ulykkelighed.


Georgieboy - jokes:

En flyver er på vej til at styrte ned.
Der er fem passagerer ombord men kun
fire faldskærme. Den første passager siger:
"Jeg er Peter Schmeichel, verdens bedste målmand
og Manchester City kan simpelhen ikke undvære mig".

Peter snupper en faldskærm og springer ud.
Den næste passager er Hillary Clinton og hun siger:
" Jeg er den tidligere præsident i USA's kone. Desuden er jeg den mest
engagerede kvinde i verden og USA's mulige første kvindelige præsident".
Hun snupper også rask en faldskærm og springer ud.

Den tredje passager er George Bush:
"Jeg er USA's præsident. Jeg har et kæmpe ansvar for verdenspolitikken.
Derudover er jeg også den klogeste præsident i hele USA's historie, så
derfor kan jeg ikke forsvare overfor mit folk at dø". Så han snupper
en faldskærmspakning, gør honør - og springer.

Den fjerde passager er paven.
Han siger til den femte passager, som er en tiårig skoledreng:
"Jeg er en gammel mand. Jeg har levet mit liv som et godt menneske
og er præst, så derfor overlader jeg dig den sidste faldskærm".

Til det svarer skoledrengen:
" Det er ikke noget problem, der er en faldskærm til os begge to.
Amerikas klogeste præsident tog nemlig min skoletaske!"


Orange alert!
CNN Breaking News,
Washington, DC (Reuters) -- A tragic and sad fire has destroyed
the personal library of President George W. Bush. Both of his books
have been lost. The president is reportedly devastated -- apparently,
he had not finished coloring the second one.



Blairs smarte tricks:
George W. Bush and Tony Blair are at a White House dinner.
One of the important guests walks over to them and asks
what they are talking about.

"We are making up the plans for WW III", says Bush.
"Wow", says the guest. "And what are the plans?"
"We are gonna kill 1 million Muslims
- and one dentist", answers Bush.

The guest looks a bit confused. "One dentist?",
he asks. "Why? Why will you kill one dentist?"
Blair pats Bush on the shoulder and says: "What did
I tell you? Nobody is gonna ask about the Muslims
if you blinded them with something they hate."


WHEN GEORGE BUSH GOES TO HELL
One day in the near future, George Bush has a heart attack and dies.
He immediately goes to hell, where the devil, as you can imagine, is waiting for him.
"I don't know what to do," says the devil. "You are on my list, but I have no room for you.
You definitely have to stay here, so I'll tell you what I'm going to do. I've got some folks here
who weren't quite as bad, as you. I'll let one of them go, but you have to take their place.
I'll even let YOU decide who leaves." Bush thought that sounded pretty good,
so the devil opened the first room.

In it was Ronald Reagan and a large pool of water.
He kept diving in and surfacing empty handed. Over and over and over.
Such was his fate in hell. "No, George said. "I don't think so. I'm not
a good swimmer and I don't think I could do that all day long."

The devil led him to the next room. In it was Richard Nixon
with a sledge hammer and a room full of rocks. All he did was swing that hammer,
time after time after time. "No, I've got this problem with my shoulder.
I would be in constant agony if all I could do was break rocks all day,
" commented George.

The devil opened a third door. In it, Bush saw Bill Clinton,
lying on the floor with his arms staked over his head, and his legs stake
in a spread eagle pose. Bent over him was Monica Lewinsky, doing what she does best.
Bush took this in disbelief and finally said, "Yea, I can handle this."
The devil smiled and said "OK, Monica, you're free to go."


AND WHAT DO WE DO WITH BIN LADEN?
Killing him will only make him a martyr. Holding him prisoner
will inspire his comrades to take hostages to demand his release.
Therefore, I suggest we do neither. Let the Special Forces, Seals or whatever
covertly capture him, fly him to an undisclosed hospital and there
have surgeons perform a complete sex change operation.
Then we return her to Afghanistan to live
as a woman under the Taliban.


+ Læs om Bob Woodwards bog om dagene efter 11. sept.
+ se en oversigt over hvem BoyGeorge egentlig er for en fyr.
+ Se Videoklip og lydklip fra Nixon´s og andre præsidenters taler


"A California congressman was reporting back on his trip from Baghdad.
He said that almost no one spoke English, poison gas filled the sky,
and he saw people firing guns in the street - and that was
on the way to the L.A. airport." - Jay Leno




    Lidt om det alvorlige
    og tankevækkende ved Irakkrigen:




    Hovedbegrundelsen for krigen er iflg BoyGeorge:
    »Irak har masseødelæggelsesvåben. Irak støtter og huser terrorister,
    der gerne bruger disse våben mod USA og andre fredselskende folk.
    Dermed udgør Irak en direkte trussel mod det amerikanske folk«.
    sagt af G. Bush ved et pressemøde fredag den 7. marts, 2003.

    Den barske sandhed er,
    at terror-linket er ubevist, og der sandsynligvis ikke er mere Giftgas i Irak.
    - ? Læs denne nyhed og døm selv - artiklen er set i Newsweek, 27. februar, 2003:

    Star witness on Iraq said
    that weapons were Destroyed in 1991
    :
    Bombshell revelation from a defector, cited by the White House and press
    http://www.msnbc.com/news/876128.asp
    February 27, 2003

    On February 24, Newsweek broke
    what may be the biggest story of the Iraq crisis.
    In a revelation that "raises questions about whether the WMD
    [weapons of mass destruction] stockpiles attributed to Iraq still exist,"
    The magazine's issue dated March 3 reported that the Iraqi weapons chief
    who defected from the regime in 1995, then told U.N. inspectors that Irak
    allready had destroyed its entire stockpile of chemical and biological weapons
    and banned missiles, as Iraq claims. - and it claims that USA knows this.

    Until now, General Hussein Kamel,
    who was killed shortly after returning to Iraq in 1996,*
    was best known for his role in exposing Iraq's deceptions
    about how far its pre-Gulf War biological weapons programs had advanced.

    But Newsweek's John Barry
    who has covered Iraqi weapons inspections for more than a decade,
    obtained the transcript of Kamel's 1995 debriefing by officials from
    the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) and the U.N.
    inspections team known as UNSCOM.

    Inspectors were told "that after the Gulf War,
    Iraq destroyed all its chemical and biological weapons stocks
    and the missiles to deliver them,"

    Barry wrote.
    All that remained were "hidden blueprints, computer disks,
    microfiches" and production molds. The weapons were destroyed secretly,
    in order to hide their existence from inspectors, in the hopes of someday
    resuming production after inspections had finished.

    The CIA and MI6 were told the same story, Barry reported,
    and "a military aide who defected with Kamel, backed Kamel's assertions
    about the destruction of WMD stocks." But these statements were "hushed up
    by the U.N. inspectors" in order to "bluff Saddam into disclosing still more."

    CIA spokesman Bill Harlow angrily denied the Newsweek report.
    "It is incorrect, bogus, wrong, untrue," Harlow told Reuters
    the day the report appeared (2/24/03).

    But on Wednesday (2/26/03)
    a complete copy of the Kamel transcript
    an internal UNSCOM/IAEA document stamped "sensitive"
    was obtained by Glen Rangwala, the Cambridge University analyst
    who in early February revealed that Tony Blair's "intelligence dossier"
    was simply plagiarized from a student thesis. Rangwala has posted
    the Kamel transcript on the Web - so take a look:

    http://casi.org.uk/info/unscom950822.pdf.
    In the transcript (p. 13), Kamel says bluntly:
    "All weapons-- biological, chemical, missile, nuclear, were destroyed."


    Who is Hussein Kamel?
    Kamel is no obscure defector. A son-in-law of Saddam Hussein,
    his departure from Iraq carrying crates of secret documents on Iraq's past
    weapons programs was a major turning point in the inspections saga.

    In 1999, in a letter to the U.N. Security Council (1/25/99),
    UNSCOM reported that its entire eight years of disarmament work
    "must be divided into two parts, separated by the events following
    the departure from Iraq, in August 1995, of Lt. General Hussein Kamel."

    Kamel's defection has been cited repeatedly by George W. Bush
    and leading administration officials as evidence that 1) Iraq has not disarmed;
    2) inspections cannot disarm it; and 3) defectors such as Kamel
    are the most reliable source of information on Iraq's weapons.

    Bush declared in an October 7, 2002 speech:
    "In 1995, after several years of deceit by the Iraqi regime,
    the head of Iraq's military industries defected. It was then that the regime
    was forced to admit that it had produced more than 30,000 liters of anthrax
    and other deadly biological agents. The inspectors, however, concluded
    that Iraq had likely produced two to four times that amount.

    This is a massive stockpile of biological weapons
    that has never been accounted for, and capable of killing millions."

    Secretary of State Colin Powell's
    February 5. presentation to the U.N.
    Security Council claimed: "It took years for Iraq
    to finally admit that it had produced four tons of the deadly nerve agent, VX
    A single drop of VX on the skin will kill in minutes. Four tons. The admission
    only came out after inspectors collected documentation as a result of the defection
    of Hussein Kamel, Saddam Hussein's late son-in-law."

    In a speech last August (8/27/02), Vice President Dick Cheney said
    that Kamel's story "should serve as a reminder to all that we often learned
    more as the result of defections than we has learned from the inspection regime itself."

    Deputy National Security Advisor Stephen Hadley recently wrote
    in the Chicago Tribune (2/16/03) that "because of information provided by Iraqi
    defector and former head of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction programs,
    Lt. Gen. Hussein Kamel, the regime had to admit in detail how it cheated
    on its nuclear non-proliferation commitments."

    The quotes from Bush and Powell cited above refer to anthrax and VX
    produced by Iraq before the 1991 Gulf War. The administration ha
    cited various quantities of chemical and biological weapons on many other
    occasions-- weapons that Iraq produced but which remain unaccounted for.
    All of these claims refer to weapons produced before 1991.

    But according to Kamel's transcript,
    Iraq destroyed all of these weapons in 1991.
    http://casi.org.uk/info/unscom950822.pdf.
    In the transcript (p. 13), Kamel says bluntly:
    "All weapons-- biological, chemical, missile, nuclear, were destroyed."

    According to Newsweek, Kamel told the same story
    to CIA analysts in August 1995. If that is true, all of these U.S. officials
    have had access to Kamel's statements that the weapons were destroyed.
    Their repeated citations of his testimony-- without revealing that he also sai
    that the weapons no longer exist-- suggests that the administration might be
    withholding critical evidence. In particular, it casts doubt on the credibility
    of Powell's February 5 presentation to the U.N., which was widely hailed
    at the time for its persuasiveness. To clear up the issue, journalists might ask
    the CIA to release the transcripts of its own conversations with Kamel.

    Kamel's disclosures have also been crucial to the arguments
    made by hawkish commentators on Iraq. The defector has been cited four times
    on the New York Times op-ed page in the last four months in support of claims
    about Iraq's weapons programs--never noting his assertions
    about the elimination of these weapons.

    In a major Times op-ed calling for war with Iraq (2/21/03),
    Kenneth Pollack of the Brookings Institution wrote that Kamel and other defectors
    "reported that outside pressure had not only failed to eradicate the nuclear program,
    it was bigger and more cleverly spread out and concealed than anyone had imagined it to be.
    " The release of Kamel's transcript makes this claim appear grossly at odds
    with the defector's actual testimony.

    The Kamel story is a bombshell
    that necessitates a thorough reevaluation of U.S. media
    reporting on Iraq, much of which has taken for granted that
    the nation retains supplies of prohibited weapons.

    (See FAIR Media Advisory,
    "Iraq's Hidden Weapons: From Allegation to Fact,"
    http://www.fair.org/press-releases/iraq-weapons.html .)

    Kamel's testimony
    is not, of course, proof that Iraq does not have hidden stock
    of chemical or biological weapons, but it does suggest a need for much more
    media skepticism about U.S. allegations than has previously been shown.

    Unfortunately, Newsweek chose a curious way to handle its scoop:
    The magazine placed the story in the miscellaneous "Periscope" section
    with a generic headline, "The Defector's Secrets." Worse, Newsweek's
    online version added a subhead that seemed almost designed to undercut
    the importance of the story: "Before his death, a high-ranking defector said
    Iraq had not abandoned its WMD ambitions." So far, according to a February
    27 search of the Nexis database, no major U.S. newspapers or national
    television news shows have picked up the Newsweek story.


    ***
    Read the Newsweek story:
    http://www.msnbc.com/news/876128.asp

    ***
    Read Glen Rangwala's analysis of the Kamel transcript:
    http://middleeastreference.org.uk/kamel.html

    Ovennævnte er i disse dage ved at blive bekræftiget
    af våbeninspektørerne! Dvs. endnu en af begrundelserne
    for, at en krig er absolut nødvendig nu, er faldet bort.

    + Den kemikaliefabrik USA hævder Saddam bruger til kemiske våben,
    blev bygget af England i 1985 - 1990, i al hemmelighed.

    + United Nations weapons inspectors monitored
    the destruction of six more Al Samoud 2 short-range missiles
    and the first two warheads, said Hiro Ueki, the spokesman for the inspectors.
    That brings the number of missiles destroyed since Saturday to 16 of a stock of 100
    already built - and a further 20 in various stages of construction.
    USA was unimpressed. "It is insufficient, It is not total."

    Der er nu ødelagt omkring 60 raketter. 14- 3- 2003.


Og hvad er der så tilbage?- andet end denne dødkyniske grund:
Et desperat forsøg på at pumpe liv i den trængte amerikanske økonomi
igennem et skatteyderbetalt statstilskud til Busch´s industrielle bagmænd:

En krig er også
et kæmpe statstilskud til sværindustrien:
Det store handelsunderskud i USA sætter pres på dollaren
Det amerikanske handelsunderskud sætter hele tiden nye rekorder,
I Nov 2002 steg det med 13,9 pct. til 40,1 milliarder dollar (knap 280 mia. kr.).
Underskuddet var langt større end forventet, og det satte dollaren under pres.
17. januar, 2003 var 1 US dollar = 6,97 kr. værd i København.
7. marts, 2003 var 1 US dollar = 6,72 kr værd i København.
17. marts, 2003 er 1 US dollar = 6. 87 kr. værd


Baggrunden for handelsunderskudet i USA er en drastisk stigning i importen,
og en stigende kæmpegæld, imens eksporten kun har vist en ringe fremgang.

+ et stort ønske om at bevare kontrollen over verdens rigeste olieresoourcer:



Desværre - er det lige så let at forstå.
hvorfor Frankrig er imod, at Saddams regime styrtes:
Saddam skylder stadig Frankrig milliarder af euros
for en masse ubetalte våben og ufærdige Atomanlæg fra 80´erne.


Flere interessante websider:

www.stop-terrorkrigen.dk/:
+ en hilsen fra Annisette, Savage Rose


USA udspionerer "modstanderne" i FN!
/politiken.dk/VisArtikel.iasp?PageID=258633

+ følg med i
/webavis.information.dk/

+ /edition.cnn.com/WORLD/

+ se også www =
Win Without War
+ fra det 2. Amerika:
www.choike.org.

Hvis det går ad h. til med krigen?
Paybacktime: "USA´s tidligere justitsminister Ramsey Clark har nu,
ligesom den berømte juraprofessor Francis Boyle, opregnet grundlaget
for en rigsretssag imod George W. Bush og hans ministre for overtrædelse
af den amerikanske grundlov, Haagkonventionen, Nürnbergkonventionen
og Genevekonventionen." - se det her: www.rise4news.net/impeach.html)
En tak for sidst? - for rigsretsagen imod Clintons nødløgn mht. Monica.

+ Arne Herløv Petersens webside om krigsforbrydelser + link





Olielampens ånd vil opfylde Busch ønske om
at få en langvarig og kostbar krig imod terrorisme.
Og lille Alladin i Bagdad? - Han ender nok en dag med
at skifte sin magiske lampe ud med en dum hævnbombe
i stedet for at få de skolebøger, han nu ønsker sig!

Ingen kan lide en krig, men ...
"Why we had a war? Of course people don't want war.
Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life
in a bloody war - when the best he can get out of it is to come back
to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people don't want war:
neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter
in Germany. That is well understood.

But after all, it is the leaders of a country
who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter
to drag the people along - whether it is a democracy, or a fascist
dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship.

Voice or no voice, the people
can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders.
That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked,
and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing
the country to danger. It works the same - in any country."

som Herman Gøring, sagde i Nürnberg retsalen i 1946.


Hvornår bliver vi dog klogere?


Læs mere om
starten på den 4. Verdenskrig her
:.
(den 3. sluttede med Sovjetunionens sammenbrud.
Slutter den 4. en dag med USA´s sammenbrud?



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